Saturday Discussion – Empire of Storms

One does not deal with Celaena Sardothien. One survives her. – Empire of Storms, Sarah J. Maas

Synopsis: The long path to the throne has only just begun for Aelin Galathynius. Loyalties have been broken and bought, friends have been lost and gained, and those who possess magic find themselves at odds with those who don’t.

As the kingdoms of Erilea fracture around her, enemies must become allies if Aelin is to keep those she loves from falling to the dark forces poised to claim her world. With war looming on all horizons, the only chance for salvation lies in a desperate quest that may mark the end of everything Aelin holds dear.

Aelin’s journey from assassin to queen has entranced millions across the globe, and this fifth installment will leave fans breathless. Will Aelin succeed in keeping her world from splintering, or will it all come crashing down? – via Goodreads

Eden: We had such a fantastic discussion on Empire of Storms so I’m going to keep this brief. I loved this book. I love Sarah J. Maas. 5/5 stars.

Caitlynn: Everything about this book was everything that I needed. I can’t even with this book. If I could give more than 5 stars I totally would, see below!

Jenn: This book man. I thoroughly enjoyed this book. I did have some issues with the plot and I am not a big fan of Rowan. However, I really loved this book and I’m excited to see where the plotline goes in the next book. Despite the issues I had with the book the things I liked made up for it. I gave it a 4.5/5 stars overall.

DISCUSSION & SPOILERS AHEAD: If you haven’t read Empire of Storms and plan to read it, it would be best not to read anymore.

Seriously, don’t continue if you don’t want to be spoiled.

Caitlynn: Currently looking at my text from Eden that says, “Ok, I swear to God, if Aelin is pregnant I’m going to hate this book.”

Eden: Yeahhhh.

Caitlynn: I loved everything about the book. I don’t know where to begin.

Eden: Including the possible pregnancy?

Jenn: I did not.

Caitlynn: But it wasn’t. So.

Eden: But you didn’t know that at the time.

Caitlynn: Ok yeah. I was like actually like, “NO! They’re about to fight a big war and what will happen to the baby?”

Jenn: That’s what you were worried about? You were worried about their shitty baby that could have been born?

Eden: I was like, “Why? Why put this in here? Nobody cares about a baby!”

Caitlynn: But it obviously is going to be a big thing next book.

Jenn: Nah dude, she’s breeding with Dorian.

Eden: Dude, she’s dying in the next book unless they get some really crafty shit happening.

Jenn: I hope she dies.


Jenn: I don’t hate her.

Caitlynn: “I just hate everything she is and everything she stands for and  everything she does.”

Jenn: I just liked her more as Celaena.

*Caitlynn flips through Empire of Storms*

Caitlynn: I especially liked, “Here’s hoping you discover more creative terms than bitch when you find this.”

Eden: That was one of my favorite moments. I was laughing so hard.

Caitlynn: I was very confused in that moment.

Jenn: Why were you confused?

Caitlynn: Because it starts out with him being really pissy when Elide refers to her.

Eden: Oh, I knew that was why he was pissed.

Jenn: He also referred to her as bitch queen throughout the entire book so I’m not understanding why you’re surprised.

Caitlynn: No but there was a point where he was like, “well now I have to plot to kill her,” and that’s what I’m referring to.

Caitlynn: The stuff with Dorian was kind of strange.

Eden: Kind of strange?

Caitlynn: A lot strange? I like how dark Dorian has gotten.

Eden: Yeah Dorian has gotten really dark. It’s just funny to see him go from little boy that chose Celaena Sardothian as his champion in his father’s tournament to tortured dude who’s had his soul ripped out and watched the woman he loves be beheaded.

Eden: Favorite parts?

Caitlynn: It has to be the battle in the bay when Lysandra turns into the dragon thing.

Eden: That was also my favorite part. Not necessarily that Lysandra turned into a dragon, but that there was so much action and so many point of views. It was a really well written battle and I felt so wound-tight waiting for everything to unravel.

Caitlynn: I specifically love Lysandra. She’s incredible. I loved that she turned into a Wyvern later.

Eden: Oh yeah, I love Lysandra. She’s such an impressive character. But like, in that moment we see Aedion and Rowan and Aelin and Lysandra just doing everything they can to win this one battle.

Jenn: I loved her interactions with with Captain Rolfe.

Eden: Yes, those were great.

Jenn: She was funny in them. I loved that she would just taunt him.

Eden: I loved the interactions between Aelin and Manon. I liked how they worked together.

Caitlynn: I don’t know how I feel about Manon with out her 13. They came back and everything felt right. I don’t like her without her 13.

Eden: But I loved her working with Dorian and Aelin. I loved that we got to read about these three leaders without kingdoms to lead.

Caitlynn: There was a line in the book about that. It pointed out how many people of royalty were in their group at that point.

Eden: That for me was so awesome. How the three of them interacted just left me so intrigued because it was like this is essentially how the three major kingdoms will be if they can get past this war and past this darkness and get put back on their thrones.

Caitlynn: Anything you guys didn’t like?

Eden: I loved the ending in the sense that I love that Aelin is now in Maeve’s custody. But my only real issue is that the ending of Empire of Storms is almost identical to A Court of Mist and Fury.

Caitlynn: YES!

Eden: “Where’s my wife?” I’m pretty sure there is an identical line like that in A Court of Mist and Fury.

Caitlynn: Which I wasn’t upset about. I was happy that they did it.

Eden: Yeah I expected it to happen. I wasn’t surprised by it. Like, I figured they were going to get married.

Caitlynn: I was so surprised I started crying. Not even going to lie. I cried at so many different points in this book.

Eden: Then she’s with the enemy in the same situation as ACoMAF. That’s what we’re going into in both of the next books.

Caitlynn: It will be an interesting year next year.

Eden: I’m curious as to if we’re going to get totally different books. That’s the only thing I didn’t like was how similar it was to A Court of Mist and Fury. Literally they ended with the same ideas.

Eden: I did like that she got the shit whipped out of her. I don’t know why I liked it but I did.

Caitlynn: It gave us an insight into Endovier. Holy shit, she took all of that before she started yelling out. She took how many whippings?

Eden: Eleven.

Caitlynn: That was crazy. I think it just shows how strong she has become. How much she can withstand

Eden: Jenn doesn’t like that.

Caitlynn: Jenn likes Celaena though she doesn’t like Aelin. So what is your least favorite part of the book, Jenn?

Jenn: I feel like when I talk about it I’m going to sound like I hated it and I didn’t.

Caitlynn: Well you gave it 4.5 stars so obviously you liked it.

Jenn: I had a lot of issues with the books. I enjoyed the story but I don’t like where it’s going.

Eden: Where do you see it going?

Jenn: I see it following along the same path that this book did. That Aelin has a plan for everything and she’s going to inevitably be able to fix everything.

Eden: I actually don’t think she’s going to be able to fix everything. She could and sacrifice herself but the question is will she?

Caitlynn: That’s the thing she’s not going to be able to get herself out of this. Her court that she just assembled will have to be the core behind getting herself out of there. I think that will be the cool part to see Rowan interact with all of these people without Aelin there. She’s going to still technically be the center but she won’t be there.

Jenn: I don’t mind her being the center. My problem is she has become this omniscient power that has too much power to be really concerned about anything. Yes, she was put into this position at the end of the book. But, that was her choice. Everything that has happened to her has been her choice. Rather than anybody finding a weakness. She has planned it all out. So, she’s this godlike figure. I’m not worried about her dying.

Caitlynn: Yeah, I am kind of along the same lives. I don’t think she’s ever going to die.

Jenn: I think she might but she’ll choose it. It will never be a surprise. It bothers me when I don’t feel worried about the character. It also pisses me off that Aelin carries all of the authority. She leads people blindly and they don’t even question her.

Caitlynn: You didn’t like that from the beginning.

Jenn: I don’t like that they just fall in line without questioning. I think that’s why I don’t like Rowan. It’s because he just follows along without ever questioning her.

Caitlynn: I think they started showing that they were questioning in this book. They were like, “What the fuck, Aelin? What have you gotten us in?”

Jenn: But she solved it all in the end. That’s why I didn’t like the end. Because wow magically Aelin had a plan for everything. Everything was tied up in a pretty little bow and was set up so they can fix it all in the next book.

Caitlynn: I thought it was going to be Chaol coming back.

Eden: She was waiting for Chaol to come back.

Jenn: I like him because he challenges her. He will be like, “No, that’s a fucking stupid move.” Where everybody else is like it’s Aelin she knows what she’s doing.

Eden: Jenn and I were talking before we finished the book and we predicted that Dorian would obviously take her spot. He has to take her spot to fulfill the prophecy. But, he can’t take her spot because she is nameless.

Jenn: At the end though they were like, “You could do it.” After they said the nameless stuff they turned to him and said he could do it.

Eden: My question is what role does Galan play in this? Does he come into play and we don’t lose Dorian or her and we lose Galan? Both Jenn and I loved Fenrys and Lorcan. I think Fenrys was one of my favorite characters throughout the book.





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