A Court of Wings and Ruin – Spoiler-free Saturday Discussion

“Only you can decide what breaks you, Cursebreaker. Only you.” ― Sarah J. Maas, A Court of Wings and Ruin


Feyre has returned to the Spring Court, determined to gather information on Tamlin’s maneuverings and the invading king threatening to bring Prythian to its knees. But to do so she must play a deadly game of deceit-and one slip may spell doom not only for Feyre, but for her world as well.

As war bears down upon them all, Feyre must decide who to trust amongst the dazzling and lethal High Lords-and hunt for allies in unexpected places.

In this thrilling third book in the #1 New York Times bestselling series from Sarah J. Maas, the earth will be painted red as mighty armies grapple for power over the one thing that could destroy them all.


Eden: For me, A Court of Wings and Ruin is Sarah J. Maas’ best book yet. She managed to not only put together an exciting and interesting story, but her character development has been impressive. She managed to bring to life even the most minor of characters while blurring the lines between good and evil. Hands down her best book yet, 5/5 stars.

Caitlynn: Maas has done it again for me. This book had so many emotions rolling through me and kept me intrigues the whole time. I can’t get enough of this world and can’t wait to see where she takes us next. 5/5 stars!

Jenn: Y’all I can’t even express how much I loved this book. Seriously, all of the worries I had flew right out the window. Maas has outdone herself. The growth she’s made as an author and her ability to create new fresh worlds/plots is incredible. I cannot wait to read more from this world. 5/5 stars for sure.


Eden: Ok, ACOWAR. What did we think?

Jenn: Where to even begin?

E: Probably with the rating.

J: No need to be a smart ass.

Caitlynn: Let’s go through each page.

J: I gave it 5/5 stars

E: Yeah 5/5.

C: 5/5. I definitely see what you guys meant by this being your favorite book of the series. So many cool things happened and I Just really liked it.

E: I think you’re right on the “cool things” part. So many thing happened. I had so many questions going into this, and came out with not many answered. But it was still so good.

J: I liked that. I liked that it wasn’t tied up in a neat little bow like it had been previously in her series. I don’t necessarily want everything to be answered. That’s just how life is. We don’t know the reason for everything.

E: The ending was still a little to nice.

C: Yeah, it was a little too pretty.

E: I would have liked it to be bloodier.

J: I’m not sure if I would have preferred it to be bloodier, but I wish she would have more commitment to making those difficult choices with her writing. I think she had really good moments and if she would have committed to doing the things that not every reader would have been happy with then I would have been very happy.

C: No. I like that pretty bow.

J: I like books where I have a good cry.

E: Obviously this is a spoiler free review, but I want to talk about Throne of Glass vs. A Court of Thorns and Roses series. Which do you prefer?

J: I definitely prefer this series.

C: Me too.

J: I didn’t think I would ever say that since I wasn’t a huge fan of the first book in the series, but I think through Mist and Fury and Wings and Ruin it’s really shown me her growth as an author. I feel like she’s choosing paths that aren’t necessarily the easiest way out in her novels which I think is really intriguing. And we all know how I feel about some of the things that have happened in the Throne of Glass series so.

C: That’s what I was going to say. The issues you have with Throne of Glass are not issues that you see with ACOTAR. Celaena ties everything up in a nice little bow at the end and Maas hasn’t done that with the A Court of Thorns and Roses series.

E: Yeah, I think I’m going to agree with you guys. I think ACOTAR is her money maker at this point. I think she had ACOTAR come out and people thought it was ok. It wasn’t Throne of Glass, that weren’t amazed by it the way they were with the Throne of Glass series at that point. And then Mist and Fury came out and everyone was like, “wow”.

J: That’s a big deal. People were so shocked by the growth from Thorns and Roses to Mist and Fury and it’s not something we have ever seen with Throne of Glass.

E: Even after Mist and Fury she could have had that decline again. She could have gone back to us not liking it the way we enjoyed Mist and Fury. What’s impressive is she didn’t do that. Somehow she managed to make me like the last book more than Mist and Fury.

J: What made it so much better is that each book has it’s own tone and it feels like its individual movement in the story. It’s organic, but it feels individualized in that I don’t know what to expect, things are going to change, anything can happen at any point.

E: Another very important topic that we need to discuss is Tamlin. Obviously, if you’ve read Mist and Fury, you know Tamlin and Feyre are done. How did you feel about the way Tamlin is portrayed throughout this book?

J: I really liked it.

C: She had the essence of the readers from book one to book two. We’re questioning whether he’s good or bad the whole time and she’s showing us this different side of Tamlin so the reader never really knows.

J: I liked that she created that grey area with Tamlin. I think a lot of authors are scared to create a character that falls into that grey area. I mean, he did some things that were wrong and there is no excusing what he did. There’s nothing redeemable for what he did, but it doesn’t make him wholly bad. There are still things to him that you can appreciate and respect. Definitely not his relationship with her, but it doesn’t mean he’s some monster in everything else he does in his life.

E: That was my big thing. When she brought Tamlin back in I was worried that we would get our typical villain archetype and it turned more into showing readers that he just fucked up.

C: I genuinely felt bad for him at times.

J: It’s like when you’re looking at someone who isn’t going to change there ways, but it doesn’t mean that they would kick a person when they’re already down. He’s backed against the wall and we still don’t know if he’s going to do what the “evil” thing is.

E: And a lot of that was created just by perspective. She made her readers question what being truly evil means. He didn’t do it with the intention of destroying to the world…

J: And it showed that his intentions didn’t matter. They didn’t make it better.

E: Nothing he did at any point redeemed him and at no point did anyone say that he was but the reader could better see that he’s more of a human. He’s been humanized. He went from the first book of being this etheral being and then the second book where he’s the bad guy to the third book where he’s finally explained more. We never had Tamlin the whole person until this book. I’m glad she did it. And I know it had to have been really hard to do.

J: I really appreciated his dialogue in this book. Yeah he said some petty stuff. But he also said things that weren’t meant to draw a reaction from the reader. She gave him an opportunity to just be a character without having any expectation to draw any emotion from the reader but to make him more of a person.

E: Again it’s that organic writing.

C: Jenn mentioned something earlier about character development and I Just need to say that Feyre’s character development was phenomenal. When we look at those covers — the first cover has hardly any part of her on it, the second is a little more and then the third cover she’s the centerpiece — it just shows us who Feyre becomes. I don’t want to say she hits her peak as a character…

E: No I think you’re right about that. I’m going to beyond this and say I think this is Maas’ best writing yet.

C: I agree. I honestly don’t feel like we can really compare Throne of Glass and this series at this point. You still can in some aspects but they are so completely different. The writing is just so different now.

E: When we look at Throne of Glass I think it’s just a few big moments strung together by little moments of tedium while every single moment in the A Court of Thorns and Roses series are all equally important. They all build to more. To say what Jenn said, it’s so seamlessly done.




6 thoughts on “A Court of Wings and Ruin – Spoiler-free Saturday Discussion

  1. Almost finished with A Court of Wings and Ruin but I decided to wait to finish it until I had time to commit to it until I could get immersed in it.

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